Notes and Queries, Number 65, January 25, 1851 by Various


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Page 28

Other than these, I know of none of the name, ancient or recent, in the
county, and I shall be glad to learn on what ground Sir George Downing's
family is said to be of most ancient origin in Devonshire. The name does
not appear in Westcote, Pole, Prince, Risdon, or the Heralds' visitations,
and the modern authorities state that the family was from Essex or Norfolk.

J.D.S.

The following memorandum I found accidentally on the margin of a MS.
pedigree of Downing, but I am sorry I cannot recall the source from whence
I obtained it. Possibly, however, it may assist "ALPHA" in his enquiry.

"Sir George Downing was not the son of Calibut Downing, rector of
Hackney, but of Emmanuel Downing, a London merchant, who went to New
England. Governor Hutchinson, in his _History of Massachusetts_, gives
the true account of Downing's affiliation, which has been further
confirmed by Mr. Savage, of Boston, from the public records of New
England."

J.P.C.

_Hulls, the Inventor of Steam-boats_ (Vol. iii., p. 23.).--Your facetious
correspondent, NOCAB, may gain some information relative to his friend
Jonathan Hulls, by going to the British Museum, and asking for the
following book from Mr. Grenville's library.

I will give the full title and Mr. Grenville's note, as it stands in my
Catalogue of the library.

GRENVILLE CATALOGUE (Vol. i. p. 351.)

"Hulls, Jonathan. A Description and Draught of a new-invented Machine
for carrying vessels or ships out of, or into any harbour, port, or
river, against wind and tide, or in a calm. For which his Majesty has
granted letters patent, for the sole benefit of the Author, for the
space of Fourteen years. London, 1737, folding plate.[10] 8vo. R.[11]

"This new invented machine is a steam-boat. It entirely puts an end to
the claims of America to the invention of steam navigation, and
establishes for this country the honour of that important discovery."

HENRY FOSS.

42. Devonshire Street, 12. Jan. 1851.

[Footnote 7: Representing, as well as I remember, a perfect steam-boat.]

[Footnote 8: Meaning Russia binding.]

[We are also indebted to [Curly-pi] for a reply to NOCAB'S query.]

"_The lucky have whole days_" (Vol. i., pp. 231. 351.).--I can inform your
correspondents P.S. and H.H., that the passage in question is correctly
quoted by the latter at p. 351., and that it is to be found in Dryden's
_Tyrannic Love_.

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia, West Indies, Nov. 1850

"_Clarum et venerabile nomen_" (Vol. ii., p. 463.).--Your enquirer as to
whence comes "Clarum et venerabile nomen," &c., will find them in Lucan.
Book ix. l. 203.

E.H.

Norwich.

_Occult Transposition of Letters_ (Vol. i., p. 416.; Vol. ii., p.
77.).--_Concert of Nature._--Other examples of these ambiguous verses are
given by J. Baptista Porta, _de Furtivis Literarum Notis_, one of which has
suggested the following lines, as conveying the compliments of the season
to the editor of "NOTES AND QUERIES:" but which, transposed, would become
an unseasonable address:--

"Principio tibi sit facilis, nec tempore parvo
Vivere permittat te Dea Terpsichore.

Si autem conversis dictionibus leges, dicent,--

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