Notes and Queries, Number 62, January 4, 1851 by Various


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_Abbey of Shapp, or Hepp._--I shall be much obliged to any of your readers
who can inform me whether the Chartulary of the Abbey of Shapp, or Hepp, in
Westmoreland, is now in existence; and if so, where it is. In the
_Monasticon_, vol. vi. p. 869., it is stated that in 1638 it was in the
possession of Lord William Howard, of Naworth; but though a search has been
made among Lord William's papers and MSS. in the possession of his
descendant, the Earl of Carlisle, at Castle Howard, the Chartulary is not
now to be found among them.

J.C.

"_Talk not of Love._"--Do any of your musical correspondents know the
author of the following song, and whether it has ever appeared in print? I
have it in manuscript, set to a very fine tune, but have never seen or
heard it elsewhere.

"Talk not of love, it gives me pain,
For love hath been my foe;
He bound me with an iron chain,
And plunged me deep in woe.

"But friendship's pure and lasting joys
My soul was form'd to prove,
Then welcome, win, and wear the prize,
But never talk of love."

A.M.

_Lucy and Colin._--Can you tell me who was the author of "Lucy and Colin,"
so beautifully translated by Vincent Bourne, and by him entitled "Lucia et
Corydon"?

In Southey's _Common-place Book_, 3d series, I found the following in p.
712.:--

"Of the wretched poem _Colin and Lucy_ (Tickel?) published as a
fragment of Elizabeth's age, the reviewer says, 'Is this the language
of Q. Elizabeth's time, or something better? But to whatever age, or to
whatever author we are indebted for this beautiful piece, it must be
allowed an honour to both, and therefore worth contending for on behalf
of our own time.'"

I wonder whether this be the "Colin and Lucy" that V. Bourne translated.

I have not Tickel's works, and therefore cannot discover whether he be the
author of that beautiful (whatever Southey may say) ballad beginning with--

"In Leinster famed for maidens fair," &c.

A.B.

_Chapel, Printing-office._--Is there any other authority than Creery's
_Press_ for the statement that printing-offices are called chapels?
Whatever may have been the case, at present the word "chapel" is applied to
the persons, or companionship, employed in the office, not to the office
itself.

GOMER.

[_Moxon_, in his _Mechanick Exercises_, vol. ii. p. 356. 4to. 1683,
says: "Every printing-house is by the custom of time out of mind called
a chappel; and all the workmen that belong to it are members of the
chappel: and the oldest freeman is father of the chappel. I suppose the
style was originally conferred upon it by the courtesie of some great
Churchman, or men, (doubtless, when chappels were in more veneration
than of late years they have been here in England), who, for the books
of divinity that proceeded from a printing-house, gave it the reverend
title of chappel."]

_Cockade_ is a ribband worn in the hat, as defined by Dr. Johnson. Query,
What is the origin of its use by officers of the army and navy; who are
privileged to wear it; when was it first introduced; and by what authority,
if any, is it sanctioned or confined to the army and navy?

A.E.

_Suem, Ferling, Grasson_--In a copy of Court Roll, dated the 40th year of
Elizabeth, and relating {8} to the manor of Rotherfield, co. Sussex,
these words occur:--

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