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5. Dr. More's _Antidote against Atheism_, cap. ii. � 14.:
"But because so many bullets joggled together in a man's hat will
settle a determinate figure, or because the frost and wind will draw
upon doors and glass windows pretty uncouth streaks like feathers and
other fooleries which are to no use or purpose, try infer thence, that
all the contrivances that are in nature, even the frame of the bodies,
both of men and beasts, are from no other principle but the jumbling
together of the matter, and so because that this doth naturally effect
something, that is the cause of all things, seems to me to be reasoning
in the same mood and figure with that wise market man's, who, going
down a hill and carrying his cheeses under his arms, one of them
falling and trundling down the hill very fast, let the other go after
it appointing them all to meet him at his house at _Gotham_, not
doubting but they beginning so hopefully, would be able to make good
the whole journey; or like another of the same town, who perceiving
that his iron trevet he had bought had three feet, and could stand,
expected also that it should walk too, and save him the labour of the
carriage."
6. Col. T. Perronet Thompson's Works, vol. ii. p. 236., _Anti-Corn-Law
Tracts_:--
"If fooleries of this kind go on, _Gotham_ will be put in Schedule A.,
and the representation of Unreason transferred into the West Riding."
J.R.M., M.A.
K.C.L. Nov. 26. 1850.
* * * * *
HERSTMONCEUX CASTLE.
Can you find an early place in your pages for the following Queries
relative to the history of Herstmonceux Castle and its lords, on which a
memoir is in preparation for the next volume of the collections of the
Sussex Arch�ological Society.
1. Who was Pharamuse of Boulogne, father of Sybil de Tingry? He is called
the _nephew_ of Maud, King Stephen's wife; but I believe there is no doubt
that she was the only child and sole heir of Eustace Earl of Boulogne,
brother of Godfrey, King of Jerusalem. Where is _Tingry_, of which place he
was lord? Is there any place in the North of France bearing that name now?
2. Will any one well skilled in the interpretation of ancient legal
documents furnish some explanation of the following extracts from the
_Rotul. de Fin._ (Hardy, i. 19.):--
"1199. William de Warburton and Ingelram de Monceux give 500 marks to
the king for having the inheritance of Juliana, wife of William, son of
Aymer, whose next of kin they say they are."
Yet six years later, 1205 (Hardy, i. 310 )--
"Waleran de Monceux gives 100 marks for having the reasonable
(rationabilis) part of the inheritance of Juliana, as regards (versus)
Wm. de Warburton, William and Waleran being her next of kin."
This Waleran was son of Idonea _de Herst_ (now Herst Monceux), and appears
in other documents as "Waleran _de Herst_." The land in question was in
_Compton_ (afterwards Compton _Monceux_), Hants.
Now how are we to reconcile the two above-quoted documents? What was the
connexion {478} between Ingelram and Waleran? And how is Waleran's double
appellation to be explained? I see a reference to a family named _de
Mounceaux_ in the last number of the _Arch�ological Journal_, p. 300.,
holding a manor near Hawbridge, Somerset Were they of the same stock?
3. The magnificent monument in Herstmonceux church to Thomas Lord Dacre
(who died 1534), and his eldest son, is embellished with a considerable
number of coats of arms, several of which I am unable to identity with any
connexions of the family. These are,--(1.) Sable, a cross or; (2.) Barry of
six, ar. and az., a bend gules; (3.) Arg. a fesse gules; (4.) Quarterly or,
and gules, an escarbuncle sable; (5.) Barry of six, arg. and gules; (6.)
Azure, an orle of martlets or, on an inescutcheon arg. three bass gules.
Can any of your readers, acquainted with the Dacre and Fienes pedigrees,
appropriate any of these coats?
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